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How useful is "Fairy-proofing" your Dragon-types?
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How useful is "Fairy-proofing" your Dragon-types?
I have seen quite a few people now who have been trying to "Fairy-proof" their Dragon-types, specifically Dragonite and Garchomp, by squeezing a Steel- or Poison-type attack onto their set, which would be Iron Head and Poison Jab, respectively. So, I decided to do all the calcs and compile them to see just how useful the addition of these two SE moves would be when it comes to hitting common Fairy-types.
Earthquake and Stone Edge vs Iron Head and Poison Jab
Earthquake and ExtremeSpeed vs Iron Head
All calculations for Dragonite are done with +1 Attack seeing how Multiscale can and should be used to allow Dragonite to DD, so we assume that Dragonite has taken a hit and survived while having used DD once.
That takes care of the physical attackers. The competition is close in that case so it is understandable why you would think it was a good idea. Special Dragon-types, Hydreigon to be specific, shouldn't even attempt to consider such things simply because Fairy-types are more Specially bulky than Physically bulky on average.
Flash Cannon
0 Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Hydreigon: 348-412 (106.7 - 126.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
If you felt that you already knew this and everything said here was common sense, that is great, don't tell me about it because, as I said before, this thread is for people who thought about trying to "Fairy-proof" their Dragon-types.
To sum up what was found:
Earthquake and Stone Edge vs Iron Head and Poison Jab
- Spoiler:
Sylveon: Earthquake vs Iron Head/Poison Jab- Spoiler:
Defensive
252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 154-183 (39 - 46.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 166-196 (42.1 - 49.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 166-196 (42.1 - 49.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Offensive
252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 232-274 (58.8 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 248-294 (62.9 - 74.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 248-294 (62.9 - 74.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Togekiss: Stone Edge vs Iron Head/Poison Jab- Spoiler:
Physically Defensive
252 Atk Garchomp Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Togekiss: 164-194 (43.9 - 52%) -- 14.1% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Togekiss: 132-156 (35.3 - 41.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Togekiss: 132-156 (35.3 - 41.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Bulky Attacker
252 Atk Garchomp Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 228-270 (61.1 - 72.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 182-216 (48.7 - 57.9%) -- 95.7% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 182-216 (48.7 - 57.9%) -- 95.7% chance to 2HKO
Nasty Plot
252 Atk Garchomp Stone Edge vs. 120 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 228-270 (66.8 - 79.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 120 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 182-216 (53.3 - 63.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Iron Head vs. 120 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 182-216 (53.3 - 63.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Choice Scarf
252 Atk Garchomp Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 228-270 (73 - 86.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 182-216 (58.3 - 69.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Iron Head vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 182-216 (58.3 - 69.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Azumarill: Earthquake vs Poison Jab- Spoiler:
252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 212 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 196-232 (49.7 - 58.8%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 212 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 212-250 (53.8 - 63.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Gardevoir: Earthquake vs Iron Head/Poison Jab- Spoiler:
Physically Defensive
252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Gardevoir: 169-199 (49.7 - 58.5%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Gardevoir: 180-214 (52.9 - 62.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Gardevoir: 180-214 (52.9 - 62.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Calm Mind
252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 76 HP / 0 Def Gardevoir: 232-274 (78.3 - 92.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Iron Head vs. 76 HP / 0 Def Gardevoir: 248-294 (83.7 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 76 HP / 0 Def Gardevoir: 248-294 (83.7 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Mega Gardevoir
252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Gardevoir: 232-274 (83.7 - 98.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Gardevoir: 248-294 (89.5 - 106.1%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Gardevoir: 248-294 (89.5 - 106.1%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
Klefki and Mawile take neutral damage from Iron Head and are immune to Poison Jab, so Earthquake is the obvious choice.
Earthquake and ExtremeSpeed vs Iron Head
All calculations for Dragonite are done with +1 Attack seeing how Multiscale can and should be used to allow Dragonite to DD, so we assume that Dragonite has taken a hit and survived while having used DD once.
- Spoiler:
Sylveon: Earthquake vs Iron Head- Spoiler:
Defensive
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 173-204 (43.9 - 51.7%) -- 10.9% chance to 2HKO
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 276-326 (70 - 82.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Offensive
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 260-307 (65.9 - 77.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 418-492 (106 - 124.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Togekiss: ExtremeSpeed vs Iron Head- Spoiler:
Physically Defensive
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Togekiss: 110-130 (29.4 - 34.8%) -- 11.2% chance to 3HKO
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Togekiss: 220-260 (58.9 - 69.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Bulky Attacker
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 248 HP / 252 Def Togekiss: 120-142 (32.1 - 38%) -- 96% chance to 3HKO
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 252 Def Togekiss: 240-284 (64.3 - 76.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Nasty Plot
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 120 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 153-181 (44.8 - 53%) -- 30.5% chance to 2HKO
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Iron Head vs. 120 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 306-362 (89.7 - 106.1%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
Choice Scarf
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 153-181 (49 - 58%) -- 97.7% chance to 2HKO
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Iron Head vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 306-362 (98 - 116%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
Azumarill: Earthquake and ExtremeSpeed vs Iron Head- Spoiler:
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 212 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 221-260 (56 - 65.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 212 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 177-209 (44.9 - 53%) -- 30.5% chance to 2HKO
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Iron Head vs. 212 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 177-209 (44.9 - 53%) -- 30.5% chance to 2HKO
Gardevoir: Earthquake vs Iron Head- Spoiler:
Physically Defensive
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Gardevoir: 189-223 (55.5 - 65.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Gardevoir: 304-358 (89.4 - 105.2%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
Calm Mind
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 76 HP / 0 Def Gardevoir: 260-307 (87.8 - 103.7%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Iron Head vs. 76 HP / 0 Def Gardevoir: 418-492 (141.2 - 166.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Mega Gardevoir
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Gardevoir: 260-307 (93.8 - 110.8%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Gardevoir: 418-492 (150.9 - 177.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Klefki and Mawile take neutral damage from Iron Head, so Earthquake is the obvious choice.
That takes care of the physical attackers. The competition is close in that case so it is understandable why you would think it was a good idea. Special Dragon-types, Hydreigon to be specific, shouldn't even attempt to consider such things simply because Fairy-types are more Specially bulky than Physically bulky on average.
Flash Cannon
- Spoiler:
Sylveon- Spoiler:
252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Sylveon: 192-229 (48.7 - 58.1%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO
Togekiss- Spoiler:
Physically Defensive
252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Flash Cannon vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Togekiss: 216-255 (57.9 - 68.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Specially Defensive
252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Flash Cannon vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Togekiss: 161-190 (43.1 - 50.9%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO
Bulky Attacker
252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Flash Cannon vs. 248 HP / 28 SpD Togekiss: 211-250 (56.5 - 67%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Nasty Plot
252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Flash Cannon vs. 120 HP / 0 SpD Togekiss: 216-255 (63.3 - 74.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Choice Scarf
252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Flash Cannon vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Togekiss: 216-255 (69.2 - 81.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Azumarill- Spoiler:
252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Flash Cannon vs. 212 HP / 0 SpD Azumarill: 147-173 (37.3 - 43.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Gardevoir- Spoiler:
Physically Defensive
252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gardevoir: 216-255 (63.5 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Calm Mind
252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Flash Cannon vs. 76 HP / 4 SpD Gardevoir: 216-255 (72.9 - 86.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Mega Gardevoir
252+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Flash Cannon vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mega Gardevoir: 187-221 (67.5 - 79.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Klefki and Mawile take neutral damage from Flash Cannon so Fire Blast is the best choice.
0 Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Hydreigon: 348-412 (106.7 - 126.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
If you felt that you already knew this and everything said here was common sense, that is great, don't tell me about it because, as I said before, this thread is for people who thought about trying to "Fairy-proof" their Dragon-types.
To sum up what was found:
- Garchomp doesn't gain much benefit from Iron Head/Poison Jab except very rarely against Gardevoir.
- Dragonite hits much harder with Iron Head but will not survive long enough to KO a Fairy-type.
- Hydreigon shouldn't think about sticking around.
- Fairy-proofing doesn't work.
- Dragon-types without multiple boosts shouldn't try pushing through Fairy-types.
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